How to maximize the inital window on startup, but no others.

[Yonut27]

I want to have certain programs start maximized. I was referred to this post:

http://fvwmforums.org/wiki/CookBook/InitialMapCommand/

This does make the inital window maximized, and also every other window associated with that class. How can I just make the windows on inital startup maximized?

It doesn’t appear that I can use ‘InitialMapCommand’ in the ‘StartFunction’.

Maybe I have to write a script that is run once ‘StartFunction’ has completed?

[somiaj]

You have to be able to identify the window you want with a unique name/class/resource. Some programs have an option to set a class, such as -class, that you can use for that. I would look to see if you can configure the window you want to maximize in such a way you can distinguish it so you can use a style for it.

The other option is to write a launcher script, that runs the program, then uses the Wait command, and then maximizes the window that was just launched. I’m unsure on the details, but this should be possible to write something that works.

[Yonut27]

@somiaj

You have to be able to identify the window you want with a unique name/class/resource. Some programs have an option to set a class, such as -class, that you can use for that. I would look to see if you can configure the window you want to maximize in such a way you can distinguish it so you can use a style for it.

For the Seamonkey web browser, there is no way to set a special name or class for the window. And having the download window, or random popup windows loading maximized is irritating as hell.

@somiaj

The other option is to write a launcher script, that runs the program, then uses the Wait command, and then maximizes the window that was just launched. I’m unsure on the details, but this should be possible to write something that works.

Should I ask this in a different forum? I feel this is the way I’m needing to go.

[phleagol]

@Yonut27

For the Seamonkey web browser, there is no way to set a special name or class for the window.

So the browser windows always have class of Seamonkey, but yet the resource or name of the windows still varies. For example, since the main browser window has resource of Navigator, you might try…

Style Seamonkey InitialMapCommand ThisWindow (Navigator) Maximize

Similarly, you might maximize or modify other windows with specific resource or name using something like…

[code]Style Seamonkey InitialMapCommand SeamonkeyFunc

DestroyFunc SeamonkeyFunc
AddToFunc SeamonkeyFunc

• I ThisWindow (Navigator) Maximize
• I ThisWindow (Preferences) Maximize
• I ThisWindow (Data) WindowStyle Title[/code]

[Yonut27]

@phleagol

@Yonut27

For the Seamonkey web browser, there is no way to set a special name or class for the window.

So the browser windows always have class of Seamonkey, but yet the resource or name of the windows still varies. For example, since the main browser window has resource of Navigator, you might try…

Style Seamonkey InitialMapCommand ThisWindow (Navigator) Maximize

Similarly, you might maximize or modify other windows with specific resource or name using something like…

[code]Style Seamonkey InitialMapCommand SeamonkeyFunc

DestroyFunc SeamonkeyFunc
AddToFunc SeamonkeyFunc

• I ThisWindow (Navigator) Maximize
• I ThisWindow (Preferences) Maximize
• I ThisWindow (Data) WindowStyle Title[/code]

Ty for your help. This solution does work, but it still makes all other ‘Navigator’ windows to open maximized, and I’m only looking for the first instance.

I needed to create an InitFunction to load all my programs, and step through them one by one:

[code]DestroyFunc InitFunction
AddToFunc InitFunction

• I GotoDesk 0 0
• I Exec exec seamonkey
• I Wait Seamonkey
• I All (Seamonkey) Maximize
  [/code]

This will maximize the first instance of Seamonkey and no others. Thanks to your reply, it helped me solve the problem.

[thomasadam]

@Yonut27

I needed to create an InitFunction to load all my programs, and step through them one by one:

[code]DestroyFunc InitFunction
AddToFunc InitFunction

• I GotoDesk 0 0
• I Exec exec seamonkey
• I Wait Seamonkey
• I All (Seamonkey) Maximize
  [/code]

This will maximize the first instance of Seamonkey and no others. Thanks to your reply, it helped me solve the problem.

Actually, you don’t.

Style whatever InitialMapCommand "None (whatever) Maximize"

You never want to use InitFunction either, see: fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FvwmStartup/

– Thomas Adam

[Yonut27]

@thomasadam

@Yonut27

I needed to create an InitFunction to load all my programs, and step through them one by one:

[code]DestroyFunc InitFunction
AddToFunc InitFunction

• I GotoDesk 0 0
• I Exec exec seamonkey
• I Wait Seamonkey
• I All (Seamonkey) Maximize
  [/code]

This will maximize the first instance of Seamonkey and no others. Thanks to your reply, it helped me solve the problem.

Actually, you don’t.

Style whatever InitialMapCommand "None (whatever) Maximize"

I now see what you’re saying, as I forgot it was preceeded by the InitalMap keyword.

@thomasadam

You never want to use InitFunction either, see: fvwmforums.org/wiki/Tips/FvwmStartup/

– Thomas Adam

I was thinking about this, and I understand that I can run a test for Init during the startup function. But I have several steps involved in my InitFunction, and for every step I would need to Test (Init) before doing what it needs to do. Seems I would be adding an extra step to every step I take, and after several lines of code, I can see this adding up.

Also, I was reading the ArchWiki and it says:

Startup functions
Note: It is recommended that you only use the StartFunction and make use of the Test command - explained below.

FVWM provides a number of functions to start modules or applications when initialising, restarting or exiting the window manager.

StartFunction - executed when FVWM is first initialised and on restarts.
InitFunction - executed only when FVWM is first initialised.
RestartFunction - executed only when FVWM is restarted.
ExitFunction - executed when exiting FVWM.

You can add your own actions to any of these functions using the AddToFunc command. For example, if one wanted to start network-manager-applet on startup (but not for any subsequent restarts of the window manager) one could add the nm-applet command to the InitFunction:

AddToFunc InitFunction

• I Exec nm-applet

You can also use just StartFunction and prepend your commands with Test commands which check whether the window manager has started or restarted and run the action only if the test is true. Using this method, nm-applet could be started in the following manner:

AddToFunc StartFunction

• I Test (Init) Exec nm-applet

The bolded word, “Recommended” is actually a hyperlink that links to http://www.fvwmforums.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1505. Reading this, I found:

2. InitFunction versus StartFunction versus RestartFunction

Unless you’re someone as foolish as I am, and are still using FVWM 2.4.19, FVWM 1.24 and FVWM 2.2.5, this is going to be of consideration to you. OK, I joke. This is really only of importance to the small minority of people running FVWM stable (2.4.19). For the rest of you running 2.5.X (at the time I writing I would hope 2.5.16) then you need to be made aware of the following:

You don’t need to use InitFunction

Gasp! It’s true. In FVWM 2.4.X, you do need to use it because the Test command does not include tests for Init, Reboot, etc. However for FVWM 2.5.X, forget InitFunction, and incorporate it into your StartFunction. Here’s an example:

But it doesn’t say I can’t. If I knew why using Test (Init) is better than using an InitFunction, I might feel better about using it. I’m not complaining or trying to start something, I just don’t get it.

You can make a bowl of cereal by getting a bowl, getting the milk, getting the cereal, getting a spoon. Or you can test if you have a bowl, then get the bowl. Test if you have milk, then get the milk…

BTW, I appreciate your response.

[thomasadam]

@Yonut27

But it doesn’t say I can’t. If I knew why using Test (Init) is better than using an InitFunction, I might feel better about using it. I’m not complaining or trying to start something, I just don’t get it.

It’s to do with function context, and execution. If you mix/match Test (Init) with InitiFunction , FVWM won’t internally aggregate those in order – there is a greater chance you won’t get the results you expect. This was largely why StartFunction and Test learned these things, and hence why you should use StartFunction.

HTH.

– Thomas

[Yonut27]

@thomasadam

@Yonut27

But it doesn’t say I can’t. If I knew why using Test (Init) is better than using an InitFunction, I might feel better about using it. I’m not complaining or trying to start something, I just don’t get it.

It’s to do with function context, and execution. If you mix/match Test (Init) with InitiFunction , FVWM won’t internally aggregate those in order – there is a greater chance you won’t get the results you expect. This was largely why StartFunction and Test learned these things, and hence why you should use StartFunction.

HTH.

– Thomas

I see what you’re saying. So the problem only lies in using both methods at the same time. FTR, As soon as I create an InitFunction, there is no need to keep anything in the StartupFunction with Test (Init).