neither xdm nor gdm3 nor kdm nor startx work with fvwm

yesterday I upgraded from squeeze to wheezy. in squeeze i used xdm and fvwm. now it does not work. xdm does not “see” fvwm. i made .xinitrc and .xsession so as to read
#!/bin/sh
xterm &
exec fvwm

but to no avail.

startx fvwm also does not work

.xsession-errors does not give anything about xdm but it does about gdm3 which I also tried to install

/etc/gdm3/Xsession: Beginning session setup…
localuser:… being added to access control list
XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server “:0”^M
after 123 requests (123 known processed) with 0 events remaining.^M
Xsession: X session started at Tue Oct 7 07:29:25 CEST 2014

however gdm3 bug is known (one cannot get in through gdm3). kdm also does not work (it hangs)

xdm3 works with gnome managers, e.g., mutter, but I don’t want that. i want fvwm

when there is mutter installed, xdm logs me in fine. when i purge mutter and reinstall fvwm, xdm just doesn’t work.

any hints? 8)

squeeze had fvwm 2.5.30 and wheezy also but in backports there’s the current version 2.6.5. What does dpkg says? dpkg -l |grep fvwm If you’ve 2.6.5 try to rename your ~/.fvwm so that fvwm doesn’t find anything and start its default configuration.

Have you linked it like described here?

Check /usr/share/xsessions/ if a file fvwm.desktop is available. If not create one as superuser with the following content (found on my system - Debian jessie)]## /etc/dm/Sessions/Fvwm.desktop ##

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Fvwm
Comment=Fvwm
Exec=fvwm2
Terminal=False
TryExec=fvwm2
Type=Application

[Window Manager]
SessionManaged=true

##[/code]

– Thomas –

squeeze had fvwm 2.5.30 and wheezy also but in backports there’s the current version 2.6.5. What does dpkg says?

2.5.30

Check /usr/share/xsessions/ if a file fvwm.desktop is available.

yes, it is

the following content (found on my system - Debian jessie):

mine is the same

when there is mutter installed, xdm logs me in fine. when i purge mutter and reinstall fvwm, xdm just doesn’t work.

now, i reinstalled mutter and xdm does not work with it any more
then I installed openbox and xdm works with it but only for root. too clumsy. cannot work.

any ideas how to sort all that? you have to ask the right questions 8)

Looks like the upgrade has broken your system more than a bit …

I would suggest:

  • backup your data, /etc and home
  • install Debian wheezy
  • add backports and install fvwm 2.6.5

– Thomas –

Before the reinstall I would try startx /usr/bin/fvwm (“startx” wants to have a client program with its full path, otherwise it won’t execute it.)
Furthermore you can try another display manager, e. g. WDM.

Thomas,

Looks like the upgrade has broken your system more than a bit …
I would suggest: * backup your data, /etc and home * install Debian wheezy * add backports and install fvwm 2.6.5

ms approach? no, thanks. this not what i came here for :slight_smile:
i would like to find out what went astray and why

well, i made openbox for the user, but it crashes as soon as i try to open any graraphics program (xfig, gimp, blender, …)
terminals, browsers, vlc, some funny applications like xarclock, work without a problem

i still cannot open fvwm (although openbox is an “almost-fvwm”)

any idea what’s going on here? you have to ask the right questions 8)

Tronar,

startx /usr/bin/fvwm
yes, i did. it works with openbox but not with fvwm

Furthermore you can try another display manager, e. g. WDM.
another ms suggestion 8)

lkng frwrd
mladen99

for the sake of completeness, i tried wdm. the same as xdm

on the other hand, i said the gimp didn’t work.
however it works nicely. just xfig and xcalendar-i18n
crush xdm (and wdm :slight_smile: in openbox
so, it is not graphics itself
does this ring any bell

another curious thing is that no other manager works
i tried metacity, mutter, fvwm
only openbox (and failsafe) work

does that tell you anything?

u just have to ask the right question 8)

Nah, not ms approach but the fastest way to get a working system again :stuck_out_tongue:

This is a forum for fvwm and not for distribution problems. What you’ve described is somewhat deeper in the system that it isn’t related to fvwm.

But anyway it’s interessting so I would try to help as much as I can 8) .

Basic prerequisite:

  • install fvwm and no display manager.
  • rename your .xinitrc and create a new one with]
    exec fvwm -D
    [/code]. This will print debug messages to ~/.xsession-errors but slows down fvwm.
  • Check if .xsession exist. If so rename it and create a symlink to your .xinitrc ln -s ~/.xsession ~/.xinitrc - Do you have a custom xorg.conf? If so rename it that Xorg find none.

Test em:

  • startx
  • After failing check ~/.xsession-errors and put it on pastebin

Other questions

  • What graphics card is in your PC/laptop? Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and put it on pastebin, too

– Thomas –

This is a forum for fvwm and not for distribution problems.

sorry about that. originally, i just wanted to install fvwm

But anyway it’s interessting so I would try to help as much as I can

thanks

  • install fvwm and no display manager.
  • rename your .xinitrc and create a new one with:
    exec fvwm -D

i did all that

ln -s ~/.xsession ~/.xinitrc

u meant

ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession

didn’t u? i did it

Do you have a custom xorg.conf? If so rename it that Xorg find none.

i did so

Test em:

  • startx
  • After failing check ~/.xsession-errors and put it on pastebin

it’s empty (nothing written)

but here is what appeared on screen when startx crashed

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: connection refused
xinit: server error

can it be the nouveau issue? i thought i got rid of that

What graphics card is in your PC/laptop?

(not pc, intel xeon server 6700 i think, not sure)
NVIDIA NV44a GeForce 6200

Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and put it on pastebin

i must be stupid; couldn’t find pastebin; i’m pasting it here below

best, mladen

[Edit by TF]]http://pastebin.com/9gEF9Pgb[/url]

Check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors and put it on pastebin, too

Heh, got it from an Ubuntu site :unamused:

No prob. Have moved it there :wink:

[Edit by TF]]http://pastebin.com/9gEF9Pgb[/url]

And it shows that Xorg has problems to load any of its drivers. It starts at line 100 and ends at 133 with ‘(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory’

I would try to reinstall xorg first. I think some sub packages are missing.

Also I would install the nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-173xx package. As the supported.list shows, is your card supported.

Then, build a xorg.conf from scratch depending on your system with[code]

Xorg -configure

[/code]and copy it to /etc/X11/