setting up a new keyboard modifier

In my ~/.fvwm2rc, I have some keyboard shortcuts, e.g.

Key n A C exec xterm -fn 7x14 -geometry 103x58+535+90

so that CTRL-n brings up a new xterm. However, when I run Illustrator (e.g.) under Win4Lin, I want it to interpret CTRL-n in its usual way. So for the X functions (e.g. the one shown above), I’d like to use a modifier that isn’t CTRL, SHIFT, or ALT.

I changed .fvwm2rc to show the Meta key

Key n A M exec xterm -fn 7x14 -geometry 103x58+535+90

and now I get a new window with ALT+i (ALT apparently acting as the meta key). However, I’d like to use the L Windows/Super key as a new modifier but haven’t succeeded. xev tells me that its keycode is 115, so I tried

xmodmap -e “keycode 115 = Meta_L”

According to xev, this does succeed in assigning Meta_L to key 115, but it doesn’t appear to have any modifier function. If I hold down the Super_L key and the i' key, I just get an i’.

xmodmap -pm shows Super_L/R as mod4 and shows nothing for mod3 or mod5.

Is there any way I can have the L Super key act as a new modifier and then list it in my .fvwm2rc? Thanks.

Assuming you’re running FVWM 2.5.X, use a per-window key-binding, to effectively disable its action:

Key (window_name) n A C --

See:

edulinux.homeunix.org/~n6tadam/f … ifiers.txt

– Thomas Adam

I tried this in .fvwm2rc

Key i A C Iconify
Key (Windows) i A C –

The second line didn’t work, perhaps because I’m running fvwm2-2.4.15. not 2.5.X. (I got 2.4.15 a couple of years ago because RPMs were easier than compiling, but maybe I’ll try the latter now.)

I’d still be interested to try setting up a new modifier for these functions. The reference you cited suggested

xmodmap -e “keycode 115 = LeftWin”
xmodmap -e “add mod4 = LeftWin”

This failed because LeftWin is not a valid keysym. Also, I’m not sure what to replace `C’ with in .fvwm2rc to identify the new modifier.

Thanks.

Right. Window-specific key-bindings are a feature of FVWM 2.5.X. I suggest you use FVWM 2.5.16. This is why the second line above doesn’t work. Note that the name you put in brackets should correspond to the window of the key-binding you want ignored. I have a hard time believing it’s called ‘Windows’. If you’re not sure what it’s called, run FvwmIdent, or xwininfo, or xprop on the window.

You replace “C” with whatever the modifier number is, for the key you’re adding the modifier for. Note that in the above (and in my instructions posted to you earlier), the keysym is derived from the keycode that the key generates – this is ascertained via xev(1) typically. If you want to know the next logical modifier mapping, look to the following:

[n6tadam@workstation ~]$ xmodmap -pm
xmodmap:  up to 3 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):

shift       Shift_L (0x32),  Shift_R (0x3e)
lock        Caps_Lock (0x42)
control     Control_L (0x25),  Control_R (0x6d)
mod1        Meta_L (0x40),  Meta_L (0x7d),  Meta_L (0x9c)
mod2        Num_Lock (0x4d)
mod3        Super_L (0x73),  Super_L (0x7f)
mod4        Super_L (0x7f),  Hyper_L (0x80),  Menu (0x75)
mod5        Mode_switch (0x5d),  ISO_Level3_Shift (0x7c)

Hence I could if I wanted declare another key as modifier 6. As far as FVWM is concerned, to use such a new modifier (let’s take modifier 4):

Key  i A 4 Iconify

Does that help? Note that this is also mentioned upon in the main FVWM FAQ via the fvwm.org website.

– Thomas Adam

WinList said it’s called “Windows”, and I also find these:

xwininfo: Window id: 0x2000043 “Windows”
xprop: WM_NAME(STRING) = “Windows”

This must be what Win4Lin calls itself.

As it turns out, this was all I needed. Super_L was already set to be mod4, so all I had to do was list mod4 in .fvwm2rc. Now it all works just as I wanted.

Thanks for your prompt and articulate help. I have done a lot of spotty reading but haven’t found a good, clear reference that defines the basic terminology and explains the relation between the Linux keymaps and the X ones. Fortunately I only needed to worry about X for this. And I’ll try to bring up 2.5.16.

Then ‘Windows’ it is. :slight_smile:

Cool.

Well, a very brief idea is depicted in this post:

viewtopic.php?p=7365#7365

If you want something a bit longer (with maybe an ASCII diagram), let me know and I’ll be happy to do so for you.

– Thomas Adam

That helps too. Thanks again.